What main problem did Giant Group come across in the process of making its production more sustainable?
The main problem is, of course, is the technology. Because we have all the intentions and such as the on the bicycle; aluminium bicycles before painting need to be treated and that treatment chemical is very harmful. But in order to use the non-toxic chemicals, the cost is very, very, very high. So how to find a more affordable way to do that treatment - that is one of the examples. We need a technology to recycle carbon. We need a technology to recycle aluminium. And we need to at the moment, we are already starting to do the recycling of bicycle tyres. Actually, another very important thing here, we need a support from the battery manufacturers because with e-bikes, we have many batteries. Just recycling the battery is actually not enough. Before it is recycle, actually. If we can refresh them, actually, it can prolong their life cycle. So we need the technologies from the battery makers. Also, when we are going upstream, maybe our vendor will say "yeah, yeah, yeah, we did it, we did". But whether they really take action, we have no idea.
How do you expect to get support and cooperation from the industry?
We are not a government. So we need the support from the government to set up more strict rules. So all we have to do is to ask our vendor that they must follow the law. So, if we say you must follow the law, it is more easy for us to say you must follow the ESG regulations. I have strong confidence, if we really can work with CONEBI, with EBMA, I think our possibility of success will increase a lot. Whoever is supporting sustainability is the supporter of ESG. We will really work with them no matter what. I strongly believe ESG is not just something very fancy. So we know what we can do. So whoever is willing to cooperate with us, we are very happy to share our knowledge and also cooperate. And we also welcome anyone who is willing to share their experience with us, we would be more than grateful.